Joe D.

Thanks for the input... I am not very good with markup languages... I programmed for 35 years but gave it up due to health reasons back in 2009 (stress bought on to many heart attacks)... I only do the web site stuff now to keep my brain somewhat going and for the fun of it... So I am not only very rusty I can not let it stress my out either... I will have a think on your suggestions, and thank you for them, and will plod along for now and when I decide I have had enough I'll hire you to do it properly... what sort of fee do you charge for skin design?

Thanks everybody for all there help in trying to resolve this issue you have all been very helpful and gracious.

Keep smiling
Phill