What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

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1/10/2011 11:55:41 AM
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What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

Hi,

I just loaded Visual Studio 2010 and created a new project and added the layout.master page and all the style sheets from the artisteer-24flashclouds skin.

When I open the Layout.Master all the controls are erroring out the following message...

Error Creating Control - "xxxxx"
This control cannot be displayed because its TagPrefix is not registered in this Web Form
.

What am I missing?

I was going to use the VS to get the skin closer to what I would like to have.

OR

Is there a better tool to modify the skin files with?

What about MS Expressions?

I looked at the Artisteer tool, I wouldn't mind spending the $49 (but does not export to HTML) and $129 is too much for a one time deal to create/modify a skin. 

I tried the Notepad route is could not figure out what all the tags meant or went to!  All I could do was hack at it and that was taking hours to just find the font color for a section... so I gave that up!

Looking forward to your advise...

Phill

 

1/10/2011 12:54:49 PM
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Re: What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

You can't edit your skins directly in Visual Studio, but you can try editing layout.master in a text editor with HTML-specific highlighting to make things a little clearer. For CSS debugging and development, we always recommend using the Firefox Firebug extension to quickly identify where colors and formatting are coming from in your skin. Also be sure to disable CSS caching during skin development to save yourself a lot of grief. Set these keys in user.config, then touch layout.master to reload the settings. Be sure to set them back to true when you're in production:

<add key="CombineCSS" value="false" />
<add key="MinifyCSS" value="false" />
<add key="CacheCssOnServer" value="false"/>
<add key="CacheCssInBrowser" value="false"/>

Keep in mind that it can be a trying and time-consuming experience to create a skin, even when starting from an existing one. When I built my first mojoPortal skin by cloning an existing one, it took me several days of off and on work to get things just the way I wanted them. This was in the days before mojoPortal had added Artisteer support, so I have a little different perspective on the cost of Artisteer: My time spent on that first skin was worth way more than $129, so I think Artisteer is a bargain, since it's the closest thing to a skinning "magic bullet" that you'll find. Once you own it, you can even do fun things like creating seasonal skins, or different skins for each area of your site. Just my $.02, since everyone has a different threshold for purchases.

The other thing you might consider is placing an ad on the Job board here for a skin design. Perhaps an Artisteer owner would be willing to work with you on designing your skin for a price that will work for you.

Jamie

 

1/10/2011 1:04:57 PM
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Re: What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

Hi Phill,

The $49 version of Artisteer does include XHTML+CSS export functionality. For mojoPortal users, that is all you need unless you want the extra images, colors and font schemes. You get like 75% of those with the standard version.

I do not use Artisteer at all but I know a lot of people on these forums use it and juding from the feedback here, the like it a lot.

HTH,
Joe D.

1/10/2011 1:11:01 PM
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Re: What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

Jamie,

Thanks that's a lot of good suggestions and things to think about.  I have built several web sites using VS and Master Pages, but none as complex and mojoportal and usually I have only created just 1 CSS file or setting the properties directly.  I just know that I am really bad at the CSS stuff! 

Is MS Expressions 4 a tool to build skins for mojoportal with?

I guess I will have to look at purchasing Artisteer after all???

Thanks again for the thoughts and suggestions.

Phill

1/10/2011 1:18:37 PM
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Re: What is the best tool to opebn layout.master?

Actually you can edit the layout.master file in Visual Studio, but it requires either opening the whole site in Visual Studio as a web site or working with mojoPortal source code and opening the actual source code solution. You can't edit it as a standalone file in VS. For most purposes a text editor is going to be simpler to work with.

Also nothing about fonts or styles is controlled from layout.master, it all comes from css. So if you're looking for it in layout.master you are looking in the wrong place.

From your other posts my suspicion is that even if you purchase Artisteer you're still going to need help from someone to make a mojoPortal skin from the html export. It does require some knowledge of html and css, for someone equipped with that knowledge it is pretty easy to follow the steps documented but without that knowledge you may not find it as easy.

http://www.mojoportal.com/understandingthelayoutmasterfile.aspx

Best,

Joe

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