WYSIWYG file manager/image editor (FCK/TinyMCE)

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8/19/2009 3:10:09 PM
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Re: WYSIWYG file manager/image editor (FCK/TinyMCE)

Yea, this is looking SWEET! It's much more user friendly and easy to figure out. The TinyMCE feels more modern and sexy too. Here are my comments/questions so far:

1) The permissions for uploading is HUGE, I greatly appreciate that one. My users are idiots and this is the only way I'd trust them editing their web site. Very, very cool.

2) The file manager/image viewer is greatly improved. Previewing the images was critical.
    - I don't see a way for content publishers to "delete" files in the file manager. Maybe a little red X next to the left of each file name?
    - Not sure how possible, but possibly a "max" prevew size limitator. People are going to upload 800x800 photos and it would be nice if the preview wasn't quite that large. Not critical but a nice to have.
    - It might be good to rearrange the file manger interface a little so it's clearer how to create a new folder, upload a new file and make a file selection. The form fields could be shorter to give you more room, most authors will only be visually looking at this and don't know what the paths mean anyhow. If there was a way so that at each folder level it was somehow clearer where you are so when a user uploads or creates a new folder it goes in the right place. If you're curious I could put a graphical layoutout togeter for you just as food for thought. Nothign too fancy, just to break the options up a little.
    - If you are previewing a larger image the list of files folders centers next to the image instead of staying at the top. Aligning to the top so it stays in that position would be better.
    - There's a bug in the demo area. Log in as eric@eric.com / eric and go to file manager. If you click on the eric test folder I created it keeps repeating itself and the files over and over and over again.
   - I like the way the folders expand and collapse, very elegant!

I'll play around more later!!! Gotta run.....

8/19/2009 5:45:04 PM
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As promised, enjoy the 30 beers Joe! Can't wait to see this functionality in the production release!

8/20/2009 6:55:47 AM
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Hey Eric,

Many thanks! It is very appreciated and very needed!

For this coming release I am only targeting it to be as good or better than what we have now in FCKeditor, so its almost ready, just needs a few tweaks and fixes for things like you pointed out about the folders listing multiple times.

But it will be a lot easier to improve this going forward than it was with FCKeditor because the dialog is in .NET.

Really I'm kind of torn because I'm not making enough revenue and still operating at a loss against my savings every month. I could take what I have and make a much more enhanced version with thumbnail browsing etc and sell it as an add on. But then again I see the editor experience as one of the most important aspects of a CMS and having those more advanced features built in out of the box may help distinguish mojoPortal among the competition. But then others will probably copy my code to improve their own so competitive advantage may be short lived.

Anyway, getting very close to a new release.

Best,

Joe

8/20/2009 9:40:41 AM
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We need to figure out a way to get this CMS more exposure. I really think it's great. I've used DNN for years now with a 300 child portal installation and HATE it. It's slow, buggy, complex, unpolished and not nearly as easy to work with skins and to build custom modules as Mojo.

You should encourage others in this community to build modules for mojo as well and resell them. Maybe they get 15% of sales or something like that on the ones they've built? I bet there are users that have built themselves modules for various purposes but have no incentive to really share. Sharing is nice, but "incentive" probably would help people part with what they've built.

8/20/2009 9:54:26 AM
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10 Beers your way Joe. Thanks for your hard work!

Eric, I couldn't agree more. mojoPortal is a very good product. If I was more of a developer, I would be writing modules and contributing them. Instead, I can only help in the Forums, with documentation, donations, and of course, pushing it to my customers. Helping in the Forums is kind of hit and miss because Joe is so darn good at responding to dang near every single post! I've not seen that kind of dedication in other communities.

-Joe D.

8/20/2009 10:21:56 AM
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Hey Joe,

Many thanks for the beers and for the help in the forums. Its a big help. Sometimes answering forum posts eats up a lot of my morning when I could be working on improvements to mojoPortal. It really helped having you take care of some of them today.

I definitely want to encourage others to develop and sell add on features. I'm happy to even link to their products if they don't directly compete with my own. I think developing and supporting a commerical product is a lot different than just implementing something for a particular customer. It has to be polished up a lot more for general consumption.

Eventually I would like to be able to let 3rd parties sell items in my store so I could earn commissions but the WebStore feature has a long way to go to really support a market place with multiple vendors. I think there are a lot of business logistics to work out too as far as distributing payments and keeping things transparent. Also it seems it could hurt my reputation if a vendor does not support their product well and its for sale on my site.

Best,

Joe

8/23/2009 11:51:14 AM
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Check out the latest build on demo.mojoportal.com, I got the spelling checker working in TinyMCE, its really nice. You click the spellchecker button then it puts squiggly lines under misspelled words, right click the squiggly word and it suggests corrections. Its using the google spell checker service, way nicer than the spell checker in FCKeditor.

New release is coming very soon.

Cheers,

Joe

8/23/2009 12:23:21 PM
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That is slick, very nice. Where did you find documentation to add that spell check? I'd like to use that service in some of my projects.

I was thinking you might want to set TinyMCE to allow editor window resizing (vertical). This allows people on larger monitors to drag the bottom of the editor window and adjust for their screen size preference. It will default to your standard size but simply allow the option (if should even remember the users choice if I recall right).

Somthing like this I think:

theme_advanced_resizing : true,"
theme_advanced_resize_horizontal : false,"

Looking good though!!!!!!

8/23/2009 12:28:42 PM
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Many of the features do have a module setting for edtor height, but notice that both TinyMCE and FCKeditor have a toolbar icon to go full screen, its right next to the spell checker button in TinyMCE.

This blog post is what I found googling for TinyMCE spell checker. http://www.kelvinluck.com/2009/01/using-spell-checker-for-tinymce-with-net-on-iis/

The .NET code provided with TinyMCE has the needed logic, you could just use their dll but I integrated the code into mojoPortal and changed it a little here and there.

Best,

Joe

8/23/2009 3:20:22 PM
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I think it's easier just to drab the corner of the editor window though. That way "users" can change the editor height based on their monitor, it isn't something an admin should set for example. Full screen editing isn't a great idea for usibility either, I'd rather have the user editing in the site template itself, that way they have a visual reference while designing to keep things in perspective.

But minor, just a thought. And thanks for the link!

8/23/2009 6:38:22 PM
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Re: WYSIWYG file manager/image editor (FCK/TinyMCE)

Just want to say so far I really, really like this CMS,  and the new TinyMCE would be a perfect addition.

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