Blog Editing / Publishing issue

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3/18/2009 10:23:50 AM
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Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Hey Joe -

I've been trying to work out an editing permissions issue.  Essentially, I've set up a visible page and a 'staging' page, that's visible only to content administrators and content authors.  I've set a blog widget on the staging page and set the publish to both the staging and the live page.

What I need to have happen is a more granular workflow: let the content author post blog entries to the staging page, but publication to the visible page can only be done by the content admin (or admin.)

It seems like there must be a way to do this, but I can't figure it out.  Any help or advice is much appreciated.

System notes: MSS03, .net 3.5, MSSQL 05

Thanks very much

Kevin

3/18/2009 12:22:51 PM
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Re: Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Hi,

Unfortunately the blog does not currently have this kind of workflow and really I don't recommend publishing a blog on more that one page because the friendly urls for the blogs have to map to a specific page id to enforce page level security. So if a blog post is made from a private page (ie a page that the public is not in a role to view) then the url for the post will have that page id and when a user goes to visit it, the permissions checked will be for the private page and the user will get access denied. I need to beef up the documentation a bit, the multi page puiblishing really only works well for features that are completely contained within the page like Html, Google Map, Links, Xml and some others. Features that have additional supporting pages like blog, forums, WebStore, can have some issues if published on more than one page unless all pages have the same permission and always will.

I have it on the roadmap to implement workflow and have already done some of the initial design. Some of it will be in the core to handle workflow on page objects, but also workflow will have to implemented as part of the feature to handle workflow for content items. I may add it into the blog or spin off a new feature from the blog since it has most of the needed functionality already.

The only thing I can think of that could get close to this workflow now is if you used a Feed Aggregator to publish the blog by aggregating the feed from the blog. The feed manager could only be edited by the admin and you would enable the setting in Feed Manager for selective publishing. This allows you to pick which posts from the feed are published on a post by post basis, whereas with selective publishing disabled all the items in the feed will be published. I'm not 100% sure if the feed from the blog will work if the blog is on a page that is restricted by roles though.

Hope it helps,

Joe

3/18/2009 3:37:47 PM
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Re: Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Hi Joe, thanks for your quick response.

I'm a little confused on the feed manager.  This is a pretty dumb question I guess, but why are there two fields to fill in, and what goes in them?  I'm more or less familiar with RSS and only ever had 1 url to plug into a reader... I tried plugging in my site URL into Web Site URL and the URL+/blog49rss.aspx into the feed url, crashed the page, and anything else I put in there it fails again and says the URI is formatted incorrectly.

If this doesn't work, I may have to just let the page contain html content instead of a blog, and the content admin can publish it to the visible page, then turn it off on the staging page, to keep content from being edited after publication.

Anyway, any help you can give on the proper formatting for the feed manager would be helpful.  The documentation on it didn't help much...

3/19/2009 6:37:44 AM
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Re: Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Kevin,

I had the same experience.  I just left the site URL empty and put the full feed URL in the feed URL.

Bill

3/19/2009 7:36:47 AM
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Re: Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Hi,

The Web Site url is used for a link to the web site, you can see it on our Community Blogs page.

For both the web url and the feed url use the fully qualified url starting with http://

Probably I need to add some validation and/or a label to make that more apparent.

Hope it helps,

Joe

 

3/19/2009 9:44:15 AM
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Re: Blog Editing / Publishing issue

Thanks for all your help on this guys.  Unfortunately, I still can't get this to work, but I think it's something to do with the server config, rather than the reader or blog widgets themselves.  I plugged in an external feed to test and it worked perfectly, but despite all my efforts couldn't get the blog feed to show (oddly, Live Bookmarks in FF3 showed the feed from the aspx page normally, so I don't think it was a problem with the feed itself either.)

I'm just going to go with the html content editor model instead.  That way I can lock down edited content after it's been published to the visible page, and it allows authors to put whatever they want on the staging page, and the content admin can decide whether to make it public or not.

Thanks again!

Kevin

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